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The Stigma against Early Retirement (FIRE)

Retirement is a word that invokes fear.

The fear of not having enough money to retire. The fear of money running out during retirement. The fear of the retirement age being pushed back even further. The fear of social isolation, losing your identity, health issues and the like.

It is no wonder that when “early retirees” are featured in the media, it usually draws the ire of the populace. How exactly have these people “gamed the system”, and are able to escape the rat race? 


Ashish Kumar, the 31-year-old retiree

Earlier this year, Ashish was featured in multiple media articles and interviews.

I think Ashish’s story stands out because of his background – he was a top PSLE scorer, then awarded a top government scholarship, did both a Bachelor and Master of Law at Cambridge, came back to serve out his bond (emphasis here, because I often wonder how many govt scholars end up breaking their bonds) … and then finally decided to retire at the ripe old age of 31!

Naturally, articles on Ashish’s retirement caused quite a stir on social media, but I’d strongly encourage you to watch this YouTube interview with Ashish, before forming your own judgement. In particular, I enjoyed to section from 34:40 onwards, although I watched the video in its entirety in one sitting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YPQdFWCHDPA

 

For further context, based on the various news articles about Ashish, I’ve gathered the following summary of how he achieved early retirement. He mentioned that he consistently invested in ETFs tracking the S&P500, and in response to a comment which posited that he “should be close to 7 figures”, Ashish’s response was “I’m not quite that comfortable, but you’re not a million miles off!”. Ashish also continues some form of part time work as a debate coach – from my understanding, this can be fairly lucrative.

Ashish had very kindly responded to a good number of comments on the Reddit post linked below. I’d say the questions and discussions on this Reddit thread are way more rational than what I’ve seen on other social media discussions – which were rife with feelings of envy, spite and doubt.

https://www.reddit.com/r/singapore/comments/1bqjfi0/ashish_kumar_was_a_top_psle_scorer_now_hes_a/

 

Now, let’s unpack some of the common sentiments online about Ashish’s story.

The main ones are:

1. He’s not actually retired; he’s a freelancer/unemployed/on sabbatical (I’ll elaborate more on sabbaticals in the later section)

2. He doesn’t own a house, so this negates whatever else he’s achieved

 

He’s not actually "retired"

I find this hilarious – because it appears that people are fixated on “labels”, rather than the actual facts of the situation.

Let’s look at two examples:

Person A: 60-year-old senior banker who accumulated $5 million, left their corporate job, and derives some income being a board member by attending a few board meetings a year.

Person B: 31-year-old who accumulated close to $1 million, left their corporate job, and derives some income as a debate coach, one day per week.

The average person won’t hesitate to identify the 60-year-old as a “retiree” right? Or, at the very least, a “semi-retiree”.

So why do we hold the 31-year-old to a different standard? In my view, retirement should be based on a net worth number, and not an age – as long as one has accumulated enough to leave full-time employment, that sufficiently qualifies as a “retiree” to me.

 

On living with parents / not owning a home of his own

Another common theme in the comments was that since Ashish does not own a home, and continues to live with his parents, this somehow negates his “early retirement” feat.

Again, I’ll pose two examples to illustrate the irony of this perspective:

Person A: $4k of passive income monthly, from $1.2m invested, which covers their expenses. Owns a home which was fully financed by CPF OA.

Person B: $4k of passive income monthly, from $1.2m invested, which covers their expenses. Lives with parents, hence CPF OA intact.

For the visually inclined, I’ve made a simple graphic to illustrate my point in a more straightforward manner:




 

It would be absurd to claim that person A is “truly retired” while person B is not, simply because person A owns a home. Both people have the exact same net worth ($1.5m), the exact same passive income ($4k per month) that covers their expenses, and logically by extension, the same quality of life.

When did owning a home become a pre-requisite for retirement?

My observation is that this negative perception of “living with parents” is largely confined to the middle class. Wealthier folks tend to prefer multi-generational living.

One common thing I noticed about wealthy families is that they plan for their children and grandchildren – multi-generational living is encouraged and seen as a positive. Whereas generally, the middle class see "adults living with parents" as something to be frowned upon, with incredible statements such as "live with parents got pay parents rent?" or "wah so old already still never move out?".

I love good architecture and I've watched countless CNA Luxury videos, and wealthy parents designing homes with their children's needs in mind has always been a common theme. The best example would be the Sheng Siong family, where not only 3 generations live together, but the families of the 3 brothers as well!

Some examples include:

Parents built "2-bedroom apartment" on top floor, in anticipation of their son starting his own family:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SlwkG26Aenw 

Parents designed house in a way that each family member has one floor to themselves:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UGGWZ0FDfjw   


Adding an anecdotal example, just as I was drafting this post, a friend shared about their housing plans. They applied for a 4-room BTO flat during university, and are currently within their MOP. Friend and spouse are both working in relatively high-income roles in finance and tech – I’d estimate a household income of easily 20k and up.

Friend’s parents live in a 3-storey, freehold semi-detached home. Friend mentioned that their plan, once the MOP is up, would be to rent out their well-located BTO flat (current market rate 3-4k/month), and move back with their parents. What’s even more interesting, is that friend’s sibling (who is also married and owns another BTO flat) has the exact same idea as well!

They are both willing to spend a significant amount on A&A to renovate their parent’s semi-detached home. Assuming both friend and sibling rent out their BTO flats for ~4k each, that would bring in nearly $100k per year combined. That’s a very decent payoff for whatever amount spent on A&A. Beyond that, any rental income will accrue to themselves – a significant additional income stream to their already high incomes. Not to mention the intangible benefits of closer family ties.

I can't help but to point out the self-sabotaging mentality that people have set for themselves, by perceiving "living with parents" as something to be despised. The offspring of the wealthy, already with all the advantages afforded to them, still have the added benefit of living with their parents well into adulthood, thereby giving them an additional boost financially.

Whereas, going by the number of comments about Ashish "living with his parents" the masses have internalised the perspective that living with parents is something to be frowned upon. This perspective puts undue pressure on people in their 20s and 30s, and potentially sets them up for stretched finances  widening the gap between the haves and the have-nots.     

At this point, I must add that I recognise there are situations where moving out of your parent’s place would be the preferred option – obviously, living in a cramped flat and sharing a bunk bed with your sibling… cannot be compared to someone living in a 15,000 sqft GCB. But for people in their 20s or 30s who are fortunate enough to have a room to themselves, and enjoy a healthy relationship with their parents, I struggle to see why living with parents should be frowned upon.

I have my own hypothesis of the negative perception towards living with parents, and this is linked to the property crazy mentality that has propelled our housing market to the stratosphere.

My hypothesis is that these spiteful comments are mainly made by people who have been drawn into Singapore’s property hype – seeing properties as some kind of status symbol and money-making tool – as a result, possible maxing out the 55% TDSR with a 30-year mortgage hanging over their heads. There is a gnawing fear of retrenchment, and they have effectively chained themselves to payoff their huge mortgage debt. Of course, seeing someone like Ashish choosing go against the grain and entirely forgo the property ladder… hits a raw nerve.

The irony here is that, if you’re indeed looking to get onto the property ladder, surely it is to your benefit that high calibre folks like Ashish opt to live with their parents, instead of competing in the housing market with you? The point here is that Ashish, with his superscale salary as a scholar in the civil service, would presumably have had little difficulty in securing a private property for himself. But the beautiful thing is that he was willing to give that all up – in the pursuit of freedom. That’s admirable to me.

In gist, most of the netizens casting aspersions on Ashish will likely continue to lament plights, whereas, as Ashish’s LinkedIn profile aptly puts it, he is “no longer seriously working, and pretty happy about this. Keen on writing, music, and getting outdoors.”

Living the dream!


What about taking sabbaticals instead?

As I’ve shared above, a good number of people were adamant that Ashish should be classified as “taking a sabbatical” instead of “retired” … which presumably makes them feel better about themselves, because sabbaticals are far more common than a 31-year-old retiree.

Going by this line of thought, netizens should be more open to the idea of younger folks taking sabbaticals, right? Absolutely wrong! It is apparent to me that whether you’re taking a sabbatical or an early retiree… a good number of people absolutely detest that.

I’ve come across this couple who are in their early 30s – Yang Jie and Lionel. A few months ago, they posted this video about taking a year off to travel the world.

https://www.instagram.com/reel/C5SZNkYSyLq/ 

They are the classic power couple – one in tech sales and the other in investment banking. Based on their posts, they’ve saved up 7 figures, and have decided to quit their lucrative jobs to travel the world. Thus far, they’ve been to quite a number of countries, and I must say, it looks like so much fun!

Now, as expected, a good number of comments on their social media posts are pretty much the same as those about Ashish – again filled with envy, spite and doubt. While the couple spends their days lazing by the beach in Phuket, or visiting Hokkaido in spring… I don’t think they would be too bothered about what bitter netizens think about them. The only think I think worth mentioning, is that for those who are curious, an IBD associate indeed brings in some pretty decent money (link below on MyCareersFuture).

MyCareersFuture

 

The Paradoxical views of FIRE Critics

From reading all the comments about these two examples, I’ve come to a simple conclusion – people just don’t like to see other people not work. Especially young(er) people.

The paradox that I want to highlight, is that people like to bring up the supposedly negative aspects of early retirement – describing it as the worst possible choice, you’ll be bored to death, you’ll run out of money, your brain will rot, you’ll have no purpose… yet at the same time, a good number of people think that early retirees are “flexing” or “showing off” their FIRE lives? How can something so bad, be something worth showing off?

The biggest hypocrisy for me is that – let’s face it – Singapore is stressful. We constantly lament about the work culture in Singapore… that we’re being overworked, we’re overly stressed out, and consequently these take a toll on our mental and physical health.

Yet, when someone manages to game the system, escape the rat race and break free of all the negative factors above… they get bashed till no end! People find countless reasons to cast aspersions, downplay what they achieved, criticise, raise doubts and so on…

Shouldn’t we feel happy for them? That they’ve achieved something we dream about?

I’d end off with my perspective – to me, I simply take a laissez-faire view towards whether people want to work or not. Ultimately, one has to be responsible for they choices they make, and deal with the consequences of their choices. For Ashish, Yang Jie and Lionel, I believe that they are intelligent, highly skilled professionals and would face little financial difficulties, even in the unlikely situation of things going south. Their stories exemplify the courage to take the path less travelled.

See the preference to work or not work as a choice between tea or coffee – simply a preference. My preference is clear.